What is the Work?

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The Work is not a building, place, book, system or tradition. It's something living in our hearts and minds - if we can find it. (M. Nicoll)

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Martyn We are all alone together
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Referring to what I wrote several posts back and the responses to it: The point I am making is that different situations, different environments can offer different energies. I did not say I advocate living only and permanently in a 'good qi' env...
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richard w may is now a member of What is the Work?
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Echoes from Maurice Nicoll Commentaries 1-6 Do you not understand that the Sermon on the Mount, about being humble and so on, has nothing to do with ordinary life but applies to this third stage of a man when he comes to the point of feeling empt...
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C.grazie.lla, do you remember a place in your life that touched you emotionally? If so please tell us about it. James
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Martin, your post reminded me of inner city experience. (And thanks for the view of a householder.) I used to work in downtown LA, Calif. I walked from my parking though a alley right next to "skid row" to a side street. The alley was dirty with ...
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Another recent Ning change. You may have noticed Ning changed the pagination of forums, removing the page numbers and replacing them with "first/previous/next/last". Protests from users led the Ning team to reconsider - the page numbering will be ...
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Reijo Oksanen in recent inteview with Kristina Turner: "We are living in interesting times in relation to new things coming onto the scene. There are many nice things happening today with the help of videos; one of the things I was looking at yes...
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I am not sure "work" is needed to actually open up to different ranges of frequencies of energy. The knowingness that our senses-capacities (translator apparatus) are but a "tuning-point" on a muuuuuuuuuuuuch larger range of emissions, is, not on...
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"So on the one hand, we can develop our senses towards being more sensitive, but on the other, this quote from fragments could also imply that there are inherent differences in what different 'situations'/environments have to offer in terms of lev...
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rob rice

randomness short subjects relating to the fourth way 20 Replies

short subjects that ARE NOT covered in other threads or could clutter other threads just NO EGO FOOD FIGHTS please as always please keep it short like if reoccurance is real would progress in the f...

Started by rob rice in Uncategorized. Last reply by aliceworks 2 hours ago.

James Taylor

Science and the Gurdjieff Work 65 Replies

Aphorism #19: Take the understanding of the East and the knowledge of the West—and then seek. Aphorism #27: If you have not by nature a critical mind your staying here is useless. “Machines are mad...

Tagged: verification, phenomenology, gurdjieff, neurology, Science

Started by James Taylor in Uncategorized. Last reply by James Taylor 1 day ago.

Marko

Discussing Work with people outside of it 54 Replies

In the course of the discussion on forum "Ultimate purpose of the Work" I began to wonder if one aspect of doing in the world is also the contact with all the people who are not part of the Work. I...

Started by Marko in The Work and Life. Last reply by Tom B. 1 day ago.

Len Wishart

Links and Documents of work related materials 173 Replies

Post your links, quotes and document attachments here so that all may share them. If you have posted quotes, documents or links in other forums please collect them and re-post them here for ease of...

Tagged: gurdjieff, books, files, attachments, links

Started by Len Wishart in Fourth Way writings. Last reply by lake george Nov 18.

aliceworks

Discussion of "All and Everything" 318 Replies

Thrilled, puzzled, frustrated or overjoyed by Gurdjieff's writings? Here's the place to discuss them.

Started by aliceworks in Fourth Way writings. Last reply by romano Nov 17.

Layne Negrin

Tibetan Buddhism & Gurdjieff 38 Replies

This is an area where we can compare Tibetan Buddhism (as well as Buddhism in general) with Gurdjieff's teaching. When adding a new subject, please do so as a top level comment rather than replying...

Tagged: dzogchen, comparative, comparisons, comparative studies, nyingma

Started by Layne Negrin in The Fourth Way & other ways or teachings. Last reply by rlnyc Nov 14.

Marko

Upbringing and education of children 77 Replies

Dear friends! I would like to open discussion and to hear your opinions about a very serious issue and that is upbringing our children. I myself am hopefully going to become father very soon and I ...

Tagged: essence, education, life, children

Started by Marko in The Work and Life. Last reply by Martin Lass Nov 12.

Beelzebob

Quote(s) of the Day 284 Replies

You are invited to post a meaningful quote or comment on one that has been posted.

Started by Beelzebob in Uncategorized. Last reply by Jerry Newburger Nov 10.

Martin Lass

Jokes! 142 Replies

Some here at WITW have agreed that we need a jokes forum to balance the at-times heavy discussions that take place in other forums. Jokes can be anything at all, Work related or not. No limitation...

Tagged: riddle, fun, parody, gag, humor

Started by Martin Lass in Uncategorized. Last reply by C.grazie.lla Nov 5.

Martyn

Why delete? 136 Replies

What makes a person start a discussion and then delete it. I do not like imagining why people do certain things so would be grateful for any comments from those who dont mind imagining.

Started by Martyn in Uncategorized. Last reply by Robert Oct 28.

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James Taylor

Places and Spaces

Places and Spaces

Gurdjieff spoke of certain places and architecture that had particular effects on man. What are some of these that he spoke of? Are there places where one becomes more conscious or one can remember oneself more?


Are there places and spaces that still exist that may be consiContinue

Posted by James Taylor on November 19, 2009 at 4:37am — 27 Comments

Will Mesa

Why Contemporary Science Cannot Help us Understand Cosmic Truths and Find Our Pace in Life

Contemporary Science and Reductionism.
The whole edifice of contemporary science is based on the notion of reductionism. Reductionism in science establishes that a complex system can be explained by reduction to its fundamental parts. For example, the processes of biology are reducible to chemistry or biochemistry, and the laws of chemistry are on themselves reducible to the laws of physics. The idea is to explain everything that takes place in us in terms of ionic states, stable atoms, m… Continue

Posted by Will Mesa on November 17, 2009 at 4:30am — 12 Comments

Will Mesa

The Source of the Living Teaching.

The Source of the Living Teaching is not in Atlantis or in pre- and post-sand Egypt, nor it is in the great civilizations in Pearl-Land and Maralpleicie and Tikliamish, nor is it to be found in Tibet. It is not in pre- or post-Babylon either, nor among the bored Roman shepherds and Greek fishermen.

Those are places that exist in us, scattered in us after going into collision with Kondoor and the sinking of Atlantis and the dispersion of the centers. We now must put back together those places sc… Continue

Posted by Will Mesa on November 14, 2009 at 6:43pm — 4 Comments

romano

The seven deadly sin, Kundabuffer, and pink glasses as skilful means

The seven deadly sin, Kundabuffer, and pink glasses as skilful means




Envy = terror of situation beginning : I start to see that I are not what i wish to be. The other people that is more than me (is not have: I want to be rich, not have the richness) shows that it is possible, but not for me in this moment. But i not want to endure the pain of the discover so i turn this hate to the other people and i buffer my being impulse, my aspiration in envy. If i was a sly man , I could take th… Continue

Posted by romano on November 10, 2009 at 7:15pm — 3 Comments

mutt

Zen and the Art of the Fourth Way

I recently sat in a Zazen for 3 days.....I am also reading New Model for the Universe.....many similiarities. I am finding truth.....it truth.

Posted by mutt on November 10, 2009 at 3:17am — 2 Comments

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"All the beings of this planet then began to work in order to have in their consciousness this Divine function of genuine conscience, and for this purpose, as everywhere in the Universe, they transubstantiated in themselves what are called the 'being-obligolnian-strivings' which consist of the following five, namely:

"The first striving: to have in their ordinary being-existence everything satisfying and really necessary for their planetary body.

"The second striving: to have a constant and unflagging instinctive need for self-perfection in the sense of being.

"The third: the conscious striving to know ever more and more about the laws of World-creation and World-maintenance.

"The fourth: the striving from the beginning of their existence to pay for their arising and their individuality as quickly as possible, in order afterward to be free to lighten as much as possible the Sorrow of our COMMON FATHER.

"And the fifth: the striving always to assist the most rapid perfecting of other beings, both those similar to oneself and those of other forms, up to the degree of the sacred 'Martfotai,' that is, up to the degree of self-individuality.

(G.I. Gurdjieff -‘Beelzebub’s Tales to His Grandson’, p. 385-386)
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