What is the Work?

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The Work is not a building, place, book, system or tradition. It's something living in our hearts and minds - if we can find it. (M. Nicoll)

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DaeGun is gone now and I am very angry about that because he knows the source of "geometry for guitar". I have forgotten the name of this jazz guitar player. I was waiting a year for the answer. Romano darling, you are very alone now in Sacred Geo...
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The origin and the spreading of the theory of the purgatory is my interest. As far as I know speak Buddhists and Christians about it (not all). Which value and which use have the theory of the purgatory for us? V
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Layne Negrin and romano are now friends
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pete gamble and James Taylor are now friends
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Practise the exercise for one week, then post your thoughts and observations the following Friday. Without beating yourself up at all...
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Dear Layne, Thanks so much for writing. You wrote:The paradox is that in both teachings consciousness can be described as both personal and impersonal. In Gurdjieff's teaching the emphasis is on its personal nature but there are also aspects whi...
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Is pondering a practice? Is practice a pondering? ;^) Karl
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How could that not be? But? The question was related just to fueling the practice of pondering. Emotions can also fuel not pondering, can't they? Are emotions based on beliefs (our past answers)? Does pondering need emotional element? I wonder. ...
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"My" Take: pondering is Mind out-smarting itself (its favourite sport)... no matter the approach! Good for being an "intelligent" and even "inspired/inspiring" character in the movie, (which is vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvery good, specially satisfying if ...
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"...where does the energy come from to fuel this practice?" The emotions. The proverbial "horses" that power the carriage. Karl
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Layne Negrin

Tibetan Buddhism & Gurdjieff 11 Replies

This is an area where we can compare Tibetan Buddhism (as well as Buddhism in general) with Gurdjieff's teaching. When adding a new subject, please do so as a top level comment rather than replying...

Tagged: dzogchen, comparative, comparisons, comparative studies, nyingma

Started by Layne Negrin in Uncategorized. Last reply by Volker 34 minutes ago.

Beelzebob

Quote(s) of the Day 283 Replies

You are invited to post a meaningful quote or comment on one that has been posted.

Started by Beelzebob in Uncategorized. Last reply by Jerry Newburger 1 day ago.

Martin Lass

Jokes! 142 Replies

Some here at WITW have agreed that we need a jokes forum to balance the at-times heavy discussions that take place in other forums. Jokes can be anything at all, Work related or not. No limitation...

Tagged: riddle, fun, parody, gag, humor

Started by Martin Lass in Uncategorized. Last reply by C.grazie.lla Nov 5.

Len Wishart

Links and Documents of work related materials 167 Replies

Post your links, quotes and document attachments here so that all may share them. If you have posted quotes, documents or links in other forums please collect them and re-post them here for ease of...

Tagged: gurdjieff, books, files, attachments, links

Started by Len Wishart in Fourth Way writings. Last reply by Martin Lass Oct 31.

Martyn

Why delete? 136 Replies

What makes a person start a discussion and then delete it. I do not like imagining why people do certain things so would be grateful for any comments from those who dont mind imagining.

Started by Martyn in Uncategorized. Last reply by Robert Oct 28.

Duncan Shockley

What is a Teacher? Do we need one? 308 Replies

I will start this thread by stating that the whole concept of a Teacher as a permenat guide is erroneous or at the least one dimensionsl. We are all at unique points in a process of transformation ...

Tagged: triads, process, octaves, way, 4th

Started by Duncan Shockley in Schools, teachers, Work conditions. Last reply by Robert Oct 26.

rob rice

randomness short subjects relating to the fourth way 16 Replies

short subjects that ARE NOT covered in other threads or could clutter other threads just NO EGO FOOD FIGHTS please as always please keep it short like if reoccurance is real would progress in the f...

Started by rob rice in Uncategorized. Last reply by romano Oct 24.

Marko

Upbringing and education of children 67 Replies

Dear friends! I would like to open discussion and to hear your opinions about a very serious issue and that is upbringing our children. I myself am hopefully going to become father very soon and I ...

Tagged: essence, education, life, children

Started by Marko in The Work and Life. Last reply by romano Oct 19.

Steven

Change of Being 26 Replies

What do we understand by a change of Being, taking in new impressions, being more awake to oneself? Sometimes I get the impression that I do not look enough inside myself to define Change of Being...

Started by Steven in Specific Work ideas (except SR and Enneagram). Last reply by romano Oct 19.

pete gamble

Where Do You Advise A Person Curious About THE WORK To Begin? 40 Replies

First of all i want to say a sincere "Thank You" to Alice for starting this site, to every single person who has posted here and an even bigger THANK YOU to Richard [Rlnyc} for introducing me to th...

Started by pete gamble in Schools, teachers, Work conditions. Last reply by romano Oct 17.

Blog Posts

Jerry Newburger

The Future is Ours

How ambitious can we be here? Is it possible to develop an AIM for our site, that could be 'ambition-less'? something organic, growing and living, but without false aim?

I wonder, ponder.

How can we know the final object of what we are to use this site for?

So:

Whither now?

Why not become a 'political party'? But without a set goal.

We already have a flag.

Posted by Jerry Newburger on November 8, 2009 at 5:34pm — 2 Comments

romano

What happens to TA group ?

I apologize to start a blog to ask a question, but I not see any announcement.
Ta it is just disappeared. It looks that Elena proposal were different. Don't you think that member have to be informed?
2) I see Mani group on art is still here,while she is gone. So it was found a technical solution also on Colin group ?

Posted by romano on November 7, 2009 at 11:10am — 21 Comments

Layne Negrin

Gurdjieff in Tibet

Announcing . . .




An exploration of Gurdjieff’s excursions into Tibet and the greater Lamaïst region including Mongolia and Nepal in general, and of the influence of Lamaïsm upon

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Posted by Layne Negrin on November 6, 2009 at 6:53pm — 19 Comments

Broken Crow

Readings from Chuang Tzu

The Empty Boat

He who rules men lives in confusion;
He who is ruled by men lives in sorrow.
Yao therefore desired
Neither to influence others
Nor to be influenced by them.
The way to get clear of confusion
And free of sorrow
Is to live with Tao
In the land of the great Void.

If a man is crossing a river
And an empty boat collides with his own skiff,
Even though he be a bad-tempered man
He will not become very angry.
But if he sees a man in the boat,
He will shout at him to steer… Continue

Posted by Broken Crow on November 6, 2009 at 4:30am

Martin Lass

The New Work: WITW's future - an open letter to WITW's founder, Alice/Elena

I hereby dub WITW with the new name "WIWW," i.e. "What is Will's Work?", subtitled, "WIRW," i.e. "What is Robert's Work?"

Dear Alice/Elena,

Will and Robert (and others of lesser color and flair but of equal intent and leaning) have won. I concede and withdraw, hanging up my weapons and armor.

I hope you are happy and fulfilled in this knowledge and with the direction that WITW is now going. May your own inner Work bring you what you seek. Thank you for all your efforts here. I truly appreciat… Continue

Posted by Martin Lass on November 5, 2009 at 10:01pm — 38 Comments

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"All the beings of this planet then began to work in order to have in their consciousness this Divine function of genuine conscience, and for this purpose, as everywhere in the Universe, they transubstantiated in themselves what are called the 'being-obligolnian-strivings' which consist of the following five, namely:

"The first striving: to have in their ordinary being-existence everything satisfying and really necessary for their planetary body.

"The second striving: to have a constant and unflagging instinctive need for self-perfection in the sense of being.

"The third: the conscious striving to know ever more and more about the laws of World-creation and World-maintenance.

"The fourth: the striving from the beginning of their existence to pay for their arising and their individuality as quickly as possible, in order afterward to be free to lighten as much as possible the Sorrow of our COMMON FATHER.

"And the fifth: the striving always to assist the most rapid perfecting of other beings, both those similar to oneself and those of other forms, up to the degree of the sacred 'Martfotai,' that is, up to the degree of self-individuality.

(G.I. Gurdjieff -‘Beelzebub’s Tales to His Grandson’, p. 385-386)
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