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Martin Lass commented on Marnie Tunay's blog post 'Fourth Way Techniques, Part One'29 minutes ago
While reading the Friday Night group material, I was struck by Mr. Gurdjieff's words quoted from "Life is Real...", concerning the "I AM" exercise. He says, "This second exercise, as I have already said, is only preparatory; and when you have acq...
Martin Lass replied to romano veronese's discussion 'Gurdjieff and the last aim'1 hour ago
Romano, you can edit a discussion you created and it will NOT delete any posts. :-)
romano veronese left a comment for Jill Codner3 hours ago
romano veronese replied to romano veronese's discussion 'Gurdjieff and the last aim'3 hours ago
Dear Jill, i answer from the end: Are you in an in-person work group Romano? If you find the time to read my page and the first forum to what i have posted replies, you'll found that i had worked in a not canonical group. And when I come out fro...
Michael Garland commented on Mike's photo 'Egoism'12 hours ago
Blindness in its pure form.
Michael Garland commented on Marnie Tunay's blog post 'Fourth Way Techniques, Part One'12 hours ago
Reply to Marnie: Good point. In a storm after a shipwreck we can use our energy gathering all manner of flotsam and jetsom bobbin about on the waves.We can hoard all manner of precious baubles and weighty treasures. Better to understand it is mo...
Mike added a photo12 hours ago
Egoism
"For many people, but not for everyone... "
Michael Garland commented on Mike's photo 'the Lascaux cave (wiseacring)'13 hours ago
mike wrote: "when few bright people with wonderful idea can transform dark, stinky, dangerous place into modern urban gallery which people from all over the world came to see now." I am impressed by the gift of drawing full stop.This primarily s...
Marnie Tunay commented on Marnie Tunay's blog post 'Fourth Way Techniques, Part One'13 hours ago
reply to Michael: if you already know everything, how can you learn anything?
Michael Garland commented on Marnie Tunay's blog post 'Fourth Way Techniques, Part One'13 hours ago
Hi Marnie, Firstly we must thank all who give opportunity for work/transformation.Yes! to reminding factor. I`ll have a bash at some of your other questions. Just considerations that may or may not be of use. Best we place emphasis on work on our...
Will Mesa replied to aliceworks's discussion 'Friday, 26th June: Life is real only then when ‘I am’' in the group ON FRIDAY NIGHT13 hours ago
To Alice and Mike, I think there is no separation between “I am” and self-remembering: They always go together. This I gathered from this comment from Mr. Gurdjieff: "Your work must consist of two things: Get better acquainted with your nonentit...
Mike replied to aliceworks's discussion 'Friday, 26th June: Life is real only then when ‘I am’' in the group ON FRIDAY NIGHT14 hours ago
Alice, thanks for connecting self-remembering and 'I am' exercise. I've done the same. Should I just do exercise for particular week without any other exercises or is it OK to have parallel practices at the same time? When sounding I AM i tried t...

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romano veronese

Gurdjieff and the last aim 101 Replies

Links and Documents of work related materials I find this: Gurdjieff-last hour of our life.pdf, Although, it is not given to everyone - to die. You can become manure for our planet, but it does not...

Started by romano veronese in Uncategorized. Last reply by Martin Lass 1 hour ago.

Len Wishart

Links and Documents of work related materials 138 Replies

Post your links, quotes and document attachments here so that all may share them. If you have posted quotes, documents or links in other forums please collect them and re-post them here for ease of...

Tagged: gurdjieff, books, files, attachments, links

Started by Len Wishart in Fourth Way writings. Last reply by romano veronese 17 hours ago.

Beelzebob

Quote(s) of the Day 247 Replies

You are invited to post a meaningful quote or comment on one that has been posted.

Started by Beelzebob in Uncategorized. Last reply by Michael Garland Jun 28.

Mika

MWRM 2nd series: Meetings with remarkable Men movie and book discusion forum 29 Replies

This forum is dedicated to G.I Gurdjieff's 2nd series Meetings With Remarkable Men. This means both the 1978 film/movie and the book. Movie/Film: I have watched this entire movie many times and I...

Started by Mika in Uncategorized. Last reply by Mika Jun 28.

Marko

Upbringing and education of children 39 Replies

Dear friends! I would like to open discussion and to hear your opinions about a very serious issue and that is upbringing our children. I myself am hopefully going to become father very soon and I ...

Tagged: essence, education, life, children

Started by Marko in The Work and Life. Last reply by Mr. Codner- peter Jun 27.

Felonious Monk

Money and the Work 116 Replies

Is the willingness to pay a high price for instruction a reliable indication of sincerity on the part of a prospective student? Is the cost of instruction an accurate gauge of a "School's" authenti...

Started by Felonious Monk in Schools, teachers, Work conditions. Last reply by Felonious Monk Jun 24.

romano veronese

Glimpses of the Truth and In Search of the miracolulos 6 Replies

. Have any of you think about that Ouspensky's book was the task the master had given him to replace Glimpses of Truth? In this perspective we have to take the thing who O. says with much pondering...

Started by romano veronese in Fourth Way writings. Last reply by romano veronese Jun 23.

Duncan Shockley

What is a Teacher? Do we need one? 363 Replies

I will start this thread by stating that the whole concept of a Teacher as a permenat guide is erroneous or at the least one dimensionsl. We are all at unique points in a process of transformation ...

Tagged: triads, process, octaves, way, 4th

Started by Duncan Shockley in Schools, teachers, Work conditions. Last reply by rlnyc Jun 23.

Surinder Verma

Why we fail again n again in sustaining self remembering ???????????? 81 Replies

if we are searching our true self.i want to know why we fail to sustain the self remembering

Started by Surinder Verma in Self-Remembering. Last reply by rlnyc Jun 21.

Alanwarb

Attention, Self Observation and Self Remembering 9 Replies

Discuss

Started by Alanwarb in Self-Remembering. Last reply by Alanwarb Jun 21.

Blog Posts

Jerry Newburger

Fear No Evil * Nor Censor Thought!

Recently I have had some of my comments deleted and censored, accompanied by ‘straw man’ arguments put forth -in a shotgun approach-, evidently intended to stop any free inquiry on my part of the subject: Specifically, the subject of one’s sexuality. These deletions were justified by a veritable barrage of “arguments” (emotions) assuming some prejudice or violation of a ‘politically correct’ discussion etiquette on my part, to wit: (and I paraphrase) “you are identified-your teachers were not co… Continue

Posted by Jerry Newburger on July 3, 2009 at 10:13pm

Will Mesa

First Case Study in Egoism, Sharing, and Putting Oneself in the Position of Others

A Dog with more Vivifyingness than a Human Being

Here is a beautiful story found in Meetings with Remarkable Men (MWRM):

“In New Bukhara , as I have already said, I took a room in the house of a fat Jewish woman who sold kvass. This room had no furniture, and at night I spread out a clean sheet in one corner for a bed and slept on it without a pillow. I did not do this for economy alone. No . . .It cannot be denied that such a way of sleeping is indeed very cheap, but I did this chie… Continue

Posted by Will Mesa on July 3, 2009 at 9:34pm

Will Mesa

Egoism

NOTE: Alice has asked me to moderate the On Friday Night group for the month of July. I will give a total of five exercises all based on Egoism. Each exercise will be related to five aspects of the teaching of Mr. Gurdjieff, namely, thinking, pondering, being-mentation, intentional being-contemplation, and doing, respectively. Each week a case study will be presented in the form of a blog in relation to egoism, sharing, and putting oneself in the position of others. This blog is on egoism as… Continue

Posted by Will Mesa on July 2, 2009 at 9:30pm — 5 Comments

Martin Lass

Form and Content, Atman and Brahman, Man and God, Personification, Identification, Reconciling Force, Sun, Jesus, Christ, etc...

To everyone... this blog has been inspired by exchanges with Robert, so I will be addressing him personally here, but I also share what I share below for all of you... as a personal testament to what the Work is for me. I don't expect anybody to believe anything I say, but rather, as always and as we are advised to do by Mr. Gurdjieff, to consider, try, test, and verify everything for yourselves...

Robert, I've been pondering how best to respond to you and what you say, not because I wis… Continue

Posted by Martin Lass on July 1, 2009 at 4:49pm — 54 Comments

Michael Garland

Secret society..shhh

Romano and I had a brief friendly exchange recently simply to clarify a minor confusion where something was both lost and gained in translation and gave us both some considerable mirth as a consequence.
In essence I had mal-interpreted a phrase Romano used in a thread of Manis as suggesting that there should exist a secret society which is so secret that its constituant members never communicate about anything!
This concept tickled my pythonesque humour organ and kind of encapsulated my view and… Continue

Posted by Michael Garland on June 30, 2009 at 11:30pm — 3 Comments

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"All the beings of this planet then began to work in order to have in their consciousness this Divine function of genuine conscience, and for this purpose, as everywhere in the Universe, they transubstantiated in themselves what are called the 'being-obligolnian-strivings' which consist of the following five, namely:

"The first striving: to have in their ordinary being-existence everything satisfying and really necessary for their planetary body.

"The second striving: to have a constant and unflagging instinctive need for self-perfection in the sense of being.

"The third: the conscious striving to know ever more and more about the laws of World-creation and World-maintenance.

"The fourth: the striving from the beginning of their existence to pay for their arising and their individuality as quickly as possible, in order afterward to be free to lighten as much as possible the Sorrow of our COMMON FATHER.

"And the fifth: the striving always to assist the most rapid perfecting of other beings, both those similar to oneself and those of other forms, up to the degree of the sacred 'Martfotai,' that is, up to the degree of self-individuality.

(G.I. Gurdjieff -‘Beelzebub’s Tales to His Grandson’, p. 385-386)
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